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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Raki » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:15 pm

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I was rereading some parts of TLW and for some reason, this scene in chapter 152 really got me. I felt like drawing them as humans helped with the dramatic emphasis, and changed the words a bit.
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Post by Dragon » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:28 pm

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I love the art, but I just can't for the life of me take that scene seriously because in it Sirius, without a hint of irony, shows more concern towards a tree than he does towards other dogs for most of the series.

Monsoon murders an innocent dog by ripping his paws off, subjecting him to an extremely slow and painful death? Zero damns or sympathies given. But a tree gets its branches cut off? ohhh nooo poor tree, why would someone do such a thing??
RIGHT? Since the beginning of that chapter starts with that, all I can think is 'lol r u srs' but Orion's abruptness broke me out of the mindset for a second enough to visual this xD
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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Kasi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:17 pm

Dragon wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:14 pm
I was rereading some parts of TLW and for some reason, this scene in chapter 152 really got me. I felt like drawing them as humans helped with the dramatic emphasis, and changed the words a bit.
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Sirius witnessing his little brother turning more and more into a dangerous killing machine right before his eyes, farther dividing their chances of reaching a peaceful conclusion together. Tragic 😔
This is so good! If only the Ginga manga could display emotion like this, I think the style of the dogs is a bit challenging to read expression most of the time.
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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Dragon » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:33 am

Kasi wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:17 pm
Dragon wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:14 pm
I was rereading some parts of TLW and for some reason, this scene in chapter 152 really got me. I felt like drawing them as humans helped with the dramatic emphasis, and changed the words a bit.
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Sirius witnessing his little brother turning more and more into a dangerous killing machine right before his eyes, farther dividing their chances of reaching a peaceful conclusion together. Tragic 😔
This is so good! If only the Ginga manga could display emotion like this, I think the style of the dogs is a bit challenging to read expression most of the time.
I know :tfw_orion1: It's like I can sometimes get a hint of it, but not always. I can only imagine the faces Yukimura would have made during his arc and saying crazy stuff like 'you ate that kid's parents'.
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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Digsu » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:19 pm

So the Finnish version of TLW 22 is out now and looking at Yoshi's essay at the end of it, he outright confirms that TLW was meant to be the end of the series and that he was more or less forced into making GDN by the publishing company. He even points out how silly continuing the series after The Last Wars would be.

I went ahead and quickly translated the whole thing, as I thought it was pretty interesting.
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Somebody please just let this poor man sleep already.



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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Spirit Tree » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:44 pm

Digsu wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:19 pm
So the Finnish version of TLW 22 is out now and looking at Yoshi's essay at the end of it, he outright confirms that TLW was meant to be the end of the series and that he was more or less forced into making GDN by the publishing company. He even points out how silly continuing the series after The Last Wars would be.

I went ahead and quickly translated the whole thing, as I thought it was pretty interesting.
SPOILER
Somebody please just let this poor man sleep already.
Well ain’t that something? If he intended to have TLW be the last of the series, he probably should have thought of a better ending for it. But yeah, he really needs to sleep peacefully at some point, not be forced to write until he dies. Maybe GDN will be the finale? I don’t know.
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Post by Tora » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:46 pm

I feel so bad for poor Yoshi....
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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Digsu » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:08 pm

Spirit Tree wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:44 pm
Digsu wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:19 pm
So the Finnish version of TLW 22 is out now and looking at Yoshi's essay at the end of it, he outright confirms that TLW was meant to be the end of the series and that he was more or less forced into making GDN by the publishing company. He even points out how silly continuing the series after The Last Wars would be.

I went ahead and quickly translated the whole thing, as I thought it was pretty interesting.
SPOILER
Somebody please just let this poor man sleep already.
Well ain’t that something? If he intended to have TLW be the last of the series, he probably should have thought of a better ending for it. But yeah, he really needs to sleep peacefully at some point, not be forced to write until he dies. Maybe GDN will be the finale? I don’t know.
I do wonder if it's a slightly paraphrased version of the events and Yoshi actually had this conversation with his editor before the final chapter was done, and he was both desperate to get those few months off and possibly a bit disheartened by hearing TLW wouldn't be the grand finale for the series he'd been planning, so he just phoned in the ending. But that's just speculation on my part.

Either way, it kind of sounds like the publisher will never let him end the series unless its popularity drops significantly. :tfw_sirius5:



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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Tsukitora » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:46 pm

Damn... knowing for sure GDN was an executively-forced continuation makes me very ticked at the canon :EMPTY: Ginga deserved so much better.
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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Dragon » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:35 pm

Holy crap, that was DEPRESSING. Let the old man rest! This explains so much for sure then. The abrupted, incomplete feeling TLW end, and now how Noah seems to be a bit of a callback arc. It hurts knowing he did intend TLW to be the end just to be forced, yet again, to think up a way to extend it.
Poor Yoshi u_u
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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Shining Sirius » Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:22 pm

Digsu wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:19 pm
So the Finnish version of TLW 22 is out now and looking at Yoshi's essay at the end of it, he outright confirms that TLW was meant to be the end of the series and that he was more or less forced into making GDN by the publishing company. He even points out how silly continuing the series after The Last Wars would be.

I went ahead and quickly translated the whole thing, as I thought it was pretty interesting.
SPOILER
Somebody please just let this poor man sleep already.
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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Wolpard » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:48 pm

Digsu wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:19 pm
So the Finnish version of TLW 22 is out now and looking at Yoshi's essay at the end of it, he outright confirms that TLW was meant to be the end of the series and that he was more or less forced into making GDN by the publishing company. He even points out how silly continuing the series after The Last Wars would be.

I went ahead and quickly translated the whole thing, as I thought it was pretty interesting.
SPOILER
Somebody please just let this poor man sleep already.
Oh my god, let this poor man rest. :Koyukisweat:

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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Nerdykestrel74 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:35 pm

Well now I'm even more convinced to just straight up not read GDN once I'm finally able to continue and finish reading TLW :tfw_sirius1:

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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Flanoir » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:07 pm

What kind of leverage do you think the publisher has in this? How do they convince the authors to go on? Stuff like threatening to reduce royalties from previous works?

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